TATM: Talkin’ About The Movies #287: Justice League

Yeah, yeah, I know what you all thinking, wasn’t I suppose to be doing another The Year In Movies post this week? Wasn’t I saying I was going to avoid Justice League at all costs? Wasn’t it me that said I would rather slit my wrists than watch Justice League on a big screen?…..okay, that last one I never said but you get my point, I was trying to avoid Justice League.

I was trying to avoid it because I knew that we were heading into a disaster on the level of Batman V Superman because it was sounding just like that, reshoots, a problem with the tone of the film, a completely new director coming into the film and they are still trying to get the film out, this was going to be a mess of a film.

So, what ended up changing my mind?…..Mother Nature.

Yeah, yesterday was shitty, it rained all day long, it was cold, it was windy, Mother Nature was basically telling me “yeah, you’re not getting away from this one, you’re seeing this movie.” So, I ended up seeing it.

And after all of my complaints, after being tortured by the ungodly mess the DC Extended Universe was becoming up until Wonder Woman came out earlier in the year, after bashing this film since having my brain destroyed by the mess that was Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice, I finally sat down and saw Justice League and what a shocker, it was….




Fueled by his restored faith in humanity and inspired by Superman’s selfless act, Bruce Wayne enlists the help of his newfound ally, Diana Prince, to face an even greater enemy. Together, Batman and Wonder Woman work quickly to find and recruit a team of metahumans to stand against this newly awakened threat. But despite the formation of this unprecedented league of heroes-Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and The Flash-it may already be too late to save the planet from an assault of catastrophic proportions.


Yeah, I’m not even kidding, I did not hate this movie as much as I was expecting to, I’m shocked, I am honestly and legitimately shocked at how much I ended up liking more of this film than I had any intentions to. It’s not a perfect movie by any reason, it’s heavily flawed in so many areas, but we’ll discuss all of that later on. Bottom line, this might actually be my second favorite movie of this DC extended universe only behind Wonder Woman.

So, let’s begin, where did the movie end up really taking me by surprise?

Well, for one thing, the acting in this is really good, especially with the heroes, I loved watching these characters interact off of one another and just having fun with each other while also trying to save the world. This is one of the many things that BVS was missing, characters interacting with each other and blending both the more serious stuff with more fun elements. Ben Affleck is once again great as Batman, Gal Gadot is great again as Wonder Woman, Jason Momoa was a ton of fun to watch as Aquaman, Ray Fisher as Cyborg started off kind of slow but as the film goes on, he gets more and more enjoyable and Ezra Miller had a lot of the funnier lines in the movie.

Another reason, the movie is overall paced well, at about 2 hours long, it manages to keep you invested and doesn’t bore you as much as you expect it to after what the other DCEU movies have done.

The overall action sequences are nicely executed here, there’s a lot of really cool and inventive action sequences here like there’s a scene where Wonder Woman loses her sword and The Flash, in fast motion, just pushes the tip back over to Wonder Woman so she can have the sword again and it’s nicely executed and again, fun to watch.

And like I said, it’s funny, this movie actually has honest to god really good humor and not that awkward attempt at humor that Dawn Of Justice was trying to pull off.

But the most impressive thing of all, the thing that completely shocks me the most about this movie. The thing that I never in a million years thought I would say about these movies….

Superman is actually kind of cool in this movie.

Yes, Justice League has made Superman actually cool again. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? Oh yeah, Joss Whedon did the reshoots for this.

And honestly, you could tell that this is Whedon’s work because you can see that there is more care and more importance to Superman in this movie then there ever was in any of the other DCEU movies. It’s pretty clear Zack Snyder does not give a fuck about Superman if you saw both Man Of Steel, which he tried to make too much like Batman Begins, and especially Batman V Superman, where the dude barely even says anything, he does not care about Superman or any of its’ characters for that matter.

But in this movie, Superman is actually fun to watch, Henry Cavill is actually giving it his all as Superman and he makes it work, he’s great to watch here, he’s not just sulking in grief, he’s not being a plank of wood, he’s actually acting, he’s got a brighter attire on his costume, and you can just tell that Whedon brought a lot into this to make Superman an integral part of this storyline again.

Even in the end credits scene, they have Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor again, a.k.a. Jar Jar Lex Luthor as I called him in Batman V Superman because he was so annoying, and you think “oh boy, here we go again, they’re gonna fuck my enjoyment of this movie up by bringing him on in there.” And then his scene comes up and, it’s really good, this is the Lex Luthor I wanted to see in BVS, it’s Eisenberg channeling his Mark Zuckerberg from The Social Network and it’s just great, also friggin’ Joe Mangianiello as Deathstroke.

I mean, it’s like they heard everybody’s complaints about Superman and how the characters were being portrayed and Joss Whedon said “all right, we can fix this” and he did. Now, if Zack Snyder was the one fixing these problems then I will give him the credit but I think Whedon did most of this in the reshoots.

But in a way, that does lead to some of my problems with the movie.

For one thing, this story is nothing new or original, Marvel has done this numerous times as had DC but this overall plot has been recycled over and over again, big bad guy from another planet wants to take over the world and a group of superheroes have to come together to save the world. It’s a story that has been done over and over again but that’s more of a nitpick on my part.

Another kind of nitpick is that the Amazons’ outfits looked a little too skimpier than they did in Wonder Woman, like why? They had the costumes already made up from Wonder Woman so, why make these costumes that show more skin when you already had a set of costumes ready to go?

One more nitpick, as much as I liked Ezra Miller in the movie as The Flash, I thought they made him a little too socially awkward, almost to the point where you wonder if he’s slightly retarded the way he was talking. Again, just a nitpick.

There are two really big problems that really ding this movie a lot.

The first big one is Steppenwolf, the antagonist of the movie. I mean, he’s played by a great actor, Ciaran Hinds, but my god, this has to be the worst villain not just in the DCEU but just in comic book movies in general. He is everything I hate about villains in superhero movies, he has no character, he has no personality, all he cares about is taking over the world, has to use cliché riddled lines about taking over the world and bowing down before him, and worst of all, he’s a fucking momma’s boy, he’s always talking about his mother and it’s like you want to ask the dude, “are you fucking your mom?” Why do you keep talking about her so goddamn much?

And the biggest problem with this movie is that the film cannot match the tone of its’ two directors, it’s very clear that you can pinpoint what’s Zack Snyder’s work with the CG overkill and slow motion action scenes and the darker elements and what Joss Whedon does with more focus on character development, more dialogue being addressed, more brighter colors and even some more clearer looking action scenes. With Snyder and Whedon, you have two very different directing styles coming into this one movie and you can tell that there’s a lot of inconsistencies with what tone this movie wants to take.

But if we’re being completely honest here, it’s clear that the stuff Joss Whedon did in this movie made the movie a lot better than it had any right to be.

In fact, Justice League as a whole is a lot better than it has any right to be, it’s no masterpiece, it’s not gonna make Marvel piss their pants in fear that DC is coming up on them but it bring a little levity back to the DC Extended Universe. It’s not Wonder Woman where it brings some new credibility to it but it’s enough as a heavily flawed but overall fun superhero movie. I actually had some good fun watching this, and to think I was actually gonna pass this one aside. I mean, I actually have hope for this universe now, there are definitely some flaws that need fixed but hopefully, WB actually looks at what’s working with this universe and what’s not working and fix those things that are not working.

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  1. […] 5 minutes. He does this shit so much, he makes Steppenwolf’s obsession for his mother in Justice League look normal by comparison. Even Vin Diesel is looking at Dwayne Johnson and being like “dude, […]

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